Leave it up to the parents should translate into no public services. Why do we have to be at the mercy of their decisions if they don’t want to consider the rest of society in theirs?
The unvaccinated should be unable to occupy public spaces when they put the rest of our lives in risk. They have a right to decline vaccination, but NO right to have their selfish, antiscience delusions put the rest of us at increased risk of disease and death. NO Public schools, NO public transportation. In our next pandemic, adult access to ICU beds and ventilators if in scarcity, their vaccination status should be a factor if ICU beds and capacity are overwhelmed. There need to be consequences for these uneducated cultists as they fall off the bottom of the Dunning Kruger curve.. We deserve and demand protection against these people. Their danger to public health is incalculable
Nor should society bear the costs of the maimed and disabled that are the product of preventable illness…and therein lies the rub. Those who have no choice as to if they get vaccinated or not. When will there be litigation to protect the unborn or just born or a medical facility or school from spreaders/antivaccers? It’s why we have gov led institutions and policies. Do we have the right to know a persons status? Would you climb on an airline with a couple cases of flu or covid or whooping cough in the seats? what constitutes endangering the unborn or pregnant mothers? Second class citizens that are never allowed in public if they can’t access vaccines? There must be an anti-utopian novel out there where vaccines are the new underground Illegal drug of choice and the 1% enjoy rejuve at the expense of other’s lives. The stuff of nightmares is the designer molecule that targets “defectives” or ethnic groups for annihilation. Trouble is that nature is way ahead on developing mammalian pathogens even as the 1% dismantles the institutions built to monitor and respond to these novel and historical enemies of civilization. Bunker builders are not promising leaders.
Those who have the choice to vaccinate, and then decline must bear responsibility for that choice. They endanger the rest of us. They have the right to decline vaccination, and we have the right to not have them electively increase our risk of death and disability Children do not have choice. Unborn children are even more vulnerable and respected even less consideration.
Over 100 years ago during the Spanish Flu Pandemic. They followed the most basic biology and public health dictates and refused to let unmasked people out in public.
We have choices, and we have responsibilities for the societal impact of our choices
And we will see exclusive schools, communities and networks with different requirements for receiving their services. Prediction: The right to deny services will be restored.
Living in a planet with billions of people, countless trillions of microbes, herds and flocks of food animals and jet travel is not exactly safe either. Ever done rat patrol in Baltimore?
It's trickling into vet med, too. Do what you want, but don't cry to me when your unvaxed dog dies of distemper or Lepto, or your unvaccinated cat catches a bat and has to be quarantined for 6 months at an exhorbitant cost. I'll tell you who vaccinates: cattlemen. Because if they don't calves get sick and don't gain weight and don't produce as much meat and milk in adulthood. OR THEY DIE FROM EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASE.
I’m a pediatrician and it is so sad to me to see the CDC being controlled by people who are against public health and want to weaponize their power to undermine vaccines. I really feel sorry for parents who are just trying to do the best for their children.
I can’t see any logical reason to take this path. Who benefits from the spread of misinformation and public safety rollbacks? Lawyers? Definitely not the public.
I appreciate this piece but i am surprised to read you refer to the pandemic in the past tense multiple times. I started following because of your commitment to masking. I feel every time someone refers to the pandemic in past tense it just reinforces the minimization of covid and the abandonment of precautions. Could you consider revising this? AFAIK the WHO declared the state of emergency over but not the pandemic as a whole.
What will it take for those now at the helm at HHS to realize that the course they are now taking will lead to the death and disability of untold numbers of innocent children? How many will have to suffer and die before they course correct and resume protecting young lives with vaccines? We’re just seeing the beginning of the trend now, and the worst is yet to come.
We have people in charge of p public health advocating for eugenics and ableism and "survival of the fittest" (except they view it as an individual thing but it's actually talking about a species as a whole being able to adapt and evolve and survive in a changing environment). They want people they deem "inferior" to suffer and die.
This is in line with P2025’s eugenics and getting our population down to 100 million white Christian males and trad wives (read Christian Nationalists). The rest of us are expendable.
Culling the population. This isn't a guess -- it's in their belief systems (look up Curtis Yarvin) and being translated into policy. Also, a sick, uneducated population is easier to control.
This was my biggest fear after the disaster of the Covid-19 vaccines: Vaccine hesitancy from these Covid vaccines has morphed into questioning the safety of all vaccines.
The science is clear that these new mRNA spike-based Covid vaccines have been in a class by themselves as being unsafe. Spike is highly mutagenic, and in Covid is part of the virus pathology.
The Covid vaccines rolled out Spring 2021, yet by year end, the worst Covid wave, Omicron, hit; proving Covid vaccine failure beyond any doubt.
Just think of all the business sectors contagion can impact. The insurance companies make profits based on how much care is purchased. Why would an insurance company promote healthy employees or travelers or stadium goers? Take the propaganda ball to the players sitting on the sidelines. Tourism, travel, events, employers of all kinds. Gotta love policies that would shut down theaters and stadium entertainments or schools once the ball gets rolling. Narrow network insurance will begin to impact the travel industry but people lack imagination and foresight and very few read horror stories from KFF health news. Without reporting and epidemiology, would you be able to track who or what caused the vacation or evening out from hell? Americans have grown complacent in thinking a for profit industry might actually support lack of data and reporting. Profit is king and those who profit need to get off the sidelines or it will become chaos as victims develop their own networks for evidence based litigation. Quietly reducing requirements for reporting of disease statistics or expanding the definition of obesity or promoting more corticosteroid use? Bonanza for some income stream. Expect more suppression of data collection. Keep organizing through channels that have community minded outcomes. Enjoy live sports or live music venues or in person education? These may become activities that raise your rates. Anti-vacc? It might become like smoking…higher premiums as justified by the insurer. If profit rules, how does vaccination benefit the individual? Would people respond to influencers lining up and taking sides on vacc no vacc? We need an outbreak gamer community. Ai is powerful enough to execute real statistical models driven by users roll of the dice and the players choices. Infotainment and horror have always played well together. I am still grappling with why students think of an infection of 1 cow or 1 chicken or 1 rat or 1 seal or 1 human as a single event when in-fact that walking bioreactor incubates millions of infectious particles. Each particle represents opportunity for mutation. Large numbers are hard for students to visualize but concepts are accepted during game play if the variables are the language of the game and the player is relaxed and focused on the win… no matter how gruesome or faux cute .
Have dentists weighed in on the hepatitis vacc issue? Want care? Want insurance? Want to travel freely? Disease may hand authority to entities other than elected government in our for profit litigious society. Chaos and confusion is the objective. Volatility is profit for the 1%. There is profit in death of old or disabled
workers. People need to see that the agenda is about culling the poor and the old. The senior ghettos and care facilities? We have a housing shortage but don’t expect much new housing or to move rural and have services like access to health care.
Leave it up to the parents should translate into no public services. Why do we have to be at the mercy of their decisions if they don’t want to consider the rest of society in theirs?
you edo know none of the childhood vaccines have been tested for safety or efficacy with saline and none have proven to be safe
I can't even watch
The unvaccinated should be unable to occupy public spaces when they put the rest of our lives in risk. They have a right to decline vaccination, but NO right to have their selfish, antiscience delusions put the rest of us at increased risk of disease and death. NO Public schools, NO public transportation. In our next pandemic, adult access to ICU beds and ventilators if in scarcity, their vaccination status should be a factor if ICU beds and capacity are overwhelmed. There need to be consequences for these uneducated cultists as they fall off the bottom of the Dunning Kruger curve.. We deserve and demand protection against these people. Their danger to public health is incalculable
Nor should society bear the costs of the maimed and disabled that are the product of preventable illness…and therein lies the rub. Those who have no choice as to if they get vaccinated or not. When will there be litigation to protect the unborn or just born or a medical facility or school from spreaders/antivaccers? It’s why we have gov led institutions and policies. Do we have the right to know a persons status? Would you climb on an airline with a couple cases of flu or covid or whooping cough in the seats? what constitutes endangering the unborn or pregnant mothers? Second class citizens that are never allowed in public if they can’t access vaccines? There must be an anti-utopian novel out there where vaccines are the new underground Illegal drug of choice and the 1% enjoy rejuve at the expense of other’s lives. The stuff of nightmares is the designer molecule that targets “defectives” or ethnic groups for annihilation. Trouble is that nature is way ahead on developing mammalian pathogens even as the 1% dismantles the institutions built to monitor and respond to these novel and historical enemies of civilization. Bunker builders are not promising leaders.
Those who have the choice to vaccinate, and then decline must bear responsibility for that choice. They endanger the rest of us. They have the right to decline vaccination, and we have the right to not have them electively increase our risk of death and disability Children do not have choice. Unborn children are even more vulnerable and respected even less consideration.
Over 100 years ago during the Spanish Flu Pandemic. They followed the most basic biology and public health dictates and refused to let unmasked people out in public.
We have choices, and we have responsibilities for the societal impact of our choices
And we will see exclusive schools, communities and networks with different requirements for receiving their services. Prediction: The right to deny services will be restored.
just read instead of following a PHARMA FUNDED DOCTOR https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/there-are-no-studies-proving-the
you really do not get it there is no such thing as a safe vaccine and no one has the right to force anyone to submit to any medical treatment wake up https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/there-are-no-studies-proving-the
Living in a planet with billions of people, countless trillions of microbes, herds and flocks of food animals and jet travel is not exactly safe either. Ever done rat patrol in Baltimore?
It's trickling into vet med, too. Do what you want, but don't cry to me when your unvaxed dog dies of distemper or Lepto, or your unvaccinated cat catches a bat and has to be quarantined for 6 months at an exhorbitant cost. I'll tell you who vaccinates: cattlemen. Because if they don't calves get sick and don't gain weight and don't produce as much meat and milk in adulthood. OR THEY DIE FROM EASILY PREVENTABLE DISEASE.
I’m a pediatrician and it is so sad to me to see the CDC being controlled by people who are against public health and want to weaponize their power to undermine vaccines. I really feel sorry for parents who are just trying to do the best for their children.
I can’t see any logical reason to take this path. Who benefits from the spread of misinformation and public safety rollbacks? Lawyers? Definitely not the public.
I appreciate this piece but i am surprised to read you refer to the pandemic in the past tense multiple times. I started following because of your commitment to masking. I feel every time someone refers to the pandemic in past tense it just reinforces the minimization of covid and the abandonment of precautions. Could you consider revising this? AFAIK the WHO declared the state of emergency over but not the pandemic as a whole.
What will it take for those now at the helm at HHS to realize that the course they are now taking will lead to the death and disability of untold numbers of innocent children? How many will have to suffer and die before they course correct and resume protecting young lives with vaccines? We’re just seeing the beginning of the trend now, and the worst is yet to come.
We have people in charge of p public health advocating for eugenics and ableism and "survival of the fittest" (except they view it as an individual thing but it's actually talking about a species as a whole being able to adapt and evolve and survive in a changing environment). They want people they deem "inferior" to suffer and die.
This is in line with P2025’s eugenics and getting our population down to 100 million white Christian males and trad wives (read Christian Nationalists). The rest of us are expendable.
What is their motive?
Culling the population. This isn't a guess -- it's in their belief systems (look up Curtis Yarvin) and being translated into policy. Also, a sick, uneducated population is easier to control.
Exactly, unfortunately. It's absolutely disgusting.
https://www.vox.com/politics/470432/supreme-court-trump-slaughter-unitary-executive
This was my biggest fear after the disaster of the Covid-19 vaccines: Vaccine hesitancy from these Covid vaccines has morphed into questioning the safety of all vaccines.
The science is clear that these new mRNA spike-based Covid vaccines have been in a class by themselves as being unsafe. Spike is highly mutagenic, and in Covid is part of the virus pathology.
The Covid vaccines rolled out Spring 2021, yet by year end, the worst Covid wave, Omicron, hit; proving Covid vaccine failure beyond any doubt.
Just think of all the business sectors contagion can impact. The insurance companies make profits based on how much care is purchased. Why would an insurance company promote healthy employees or travelers or stadium goers? Take the propaganda ball to the players sitting on the sidelines. Tourism, travel, events, employers of all kinds. Gotta love policies that would shut down theaters and stadium entertainments or schools once the ball gets rolling. Narrow network insurance will begin to impact the travel industry but people lack imagination and foresight and very few read horror stories from KFF health news. Without reporting and epidemiology, would you be able to track who or what caused the vacation or evening out from hell? Americans have grown complacent in thinking a for profit industry might actually support lack of data and reporting. Profit is king and those who profit need to get off the sidelines or it will become chaos as victims develop their own networks for evidence based litigation. Quietly reducing requirements for reporting of disease statistics or expanding the definition of obesity or promoting more corticosteroid use? Bonanza for some income stream. Expect more suppression of data collection. Keep organizing through channels that have community minded outcomes. Enjoy live sports or live music venues or in person education? These may become activities that raise your rates. Anti-vacc? It might become like smoking…higher premiums as justified by the insurer. If profit rules, how does vaccination benefit the individual? Would people respond to influencers lining up and taking sides on vacc no vacc? We need an outbreak gamer community. Ai is powerful enough to execute real statistical models driven by users roll of the dice and the players choices. Infotainment and horror have always played well together. I am still grappling with why students think of an infection of 1 cow or 1 chicken or 1 rat or 1 seal or 1 human as a single event when in-fact that walking bioreactor incubates millions of infectious particles. Each particle represents opportunity for mutation. Large numbers are hard for students to visualize but concepts are accepted during game play if the variables are the language of the game and the player is relaxed and focused on the win… no matter how gruesome or faux cute .
Have dentists weighed in on the hepatitis vacc issue? Want care? Want insurance? Want to travel freely? Disease may hand authority to entities other than elected government in our for profit litigious society. Chaos and confusion is the objective. Volatility is profit for the 1%. There is profit in death of old or disabled
workers. People need to see that the agenda is about culling the poor and the old. The senior ghettos and care facilities? We have a housing shortage but don’t expect much new housing or to move rural and have services like access to health care.